Forum - Characters - Character Proportions - Messages http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5087-character-proportions.aspx Forum - Characters - Character Proportions - Messages en-us http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Jitbit AspNetForum Tue, 21 Jun 2016 01:03:03 GMT Tue, 21 Jun 2016 01:03:03 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5087-character-proportions.aspx Message from theotherguy
Muvizu is a great tool but keeping in mind it's price, $30, it (understandably) has limitations. I use it as part of a toolkit along with a good video editor, photoshop, and coredraw. Sometimes figuring out work-arounds make me better with other programs too, as a bonus.

Here is a video I made using everything
]]> Tue, 21 Jun 2016 01:03:03 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5087-character-proportions.aspx Message from MrDrWho13 animall wrote:
I came across this discussion by chance and read various inputs. I am not a programmer but 2D/3D animator, so my suggestion comes from this angle. If Mandy and Rosie come in 3 parts (meshes), e.g. Head, torso and legs, how difficult would it be to add the independent size slider so anyone can create his/hers Character Proportions? If this could be possible to implement to other existing characters, it would tremendously increased various options, without a need for extra characters.
This way anyone can create a character which is more comical, illustrative or serious depending on the animation script.

I'm not sure if this would work because I think the character skeletons would no longer match the proportions of alternate body part sizes which could cause problems. That might just be for the older characters though.]]> Mon, 20 Jun 2016 07:23:07 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5087-character-proportions.aspx Message from animall This way anyone can create a character which is more comical, illustrative or serious depending on the animation script.]]> Mon, 20 Jun 2016 03:18:27 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5087-character-proportions.aspx Message from urbanlamb fazz68 wrote:
cperg wrote:
Since all of you have had a greater exposure to video production than perhaps I have I would like to make another forum redundant statement. I am almost sure each of you have seen the free software called MakeHuman. If not here's a link to the project. http://www.makehuman.org/

With this project I was able to produce decent characters and import them into blender just as an experiment. Not much I can do with blender beyond that though. I am going to try and drop one of the characters in muvizu as an inanimate object in the next week. Anyone have ideas concerning this effort?


as long as its fbx it shouldnt be a problem. i know you can export as fbx with that software. it does all the uv mapping for you from what i remember. try and see what happens.
edited by fazz68 on 07/08/2015



yup i have actually in a couple of scenes used makehuman characters that I turned into crash test dummies I think at the time I converted them to ASE though you need to remove everything and just keep the mesh. Its "not hard really" that is my shall we say byline at this point I seem to say it a lot LOL . I used one in Dr Daldrins atomic beam machine. Now we have fbx so should not be an issue and its a better format.]]> Fri, 07 Aug 2015 20:23:13 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5087-character-proportions.aspx Message from MrDrWho13 Dylly wrote:
You see...we had spotted the concept drawings of horses which were pinned to the back wall...

I believe I found the drawings showcased on the digimania site:

Looks like it might have been their plans to start RenderDigimania.
edited by MrDrWho13 on 07/08/2015]]> Fri, 07 Aug 2015 19:17:36 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5087-character-proportions.aspx Message from fazz68 cperg wrote:
Since all of you have had a greater exposure to video production than perhaps I have I would like to make another forum redundant statement. I am almost sure each of you have seen the free software called MakeHuman. If not here's a link to the project. http://www.makehuman.org/

With this project I was able to produce decent characters and import them into blender just as an experiment. Not much I can do with blender beyond that though. I am going to try and drop one of the characters in muvizu as an inanimate object in the next week. Anyone have ideas concerning this effort?


as long as its fbx it shouldnt be a problem. i know you can export as fbx with that software. it does all the uv mapping for you from what i remember. try and see what happens.
edited by fazz68 on 07/08/2015]]> Fri, 07 Aug 2015 15:52:29 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5087-character-proportions.aspx Message from cperg http://www.makehuman.org/

With this project I was able to produce decent characters and import them into blender just as an experiment. Not much I can do with blender beyond that though. I am going to try and drop one of the characters in muvizu as an inanimate object in the next week. Anyone have ideas concerning this effort?]]> Fri, 07 Aug 2015 15:48:34 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5087-character-proportions.aspx Message from cperg Fri, 07 Aug 2015 15:15:51 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5087-character-proportions.aspx Message from Dylly ]]> Fri, 07 Aug 2015 07:05:25 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5087-character-proportions.aspx Message from ukBerty cperg wrote:
BTW a demeaning response shows a great deal about the tenor of a site.


Oh no. That's the trouble with written responses, sometimes it's difficult to get the tone across....

There are some thing we all want included in the software. It was meant as a compliment that you got to one of the most popular requests so quickly. We've been asking for years.

I must admit I did pause before posting in case the sarcasm (towards Muvizu) could be taken the wrong way, so apologise if you thought it was directed at you.

It's really not that kind of a forum.]]> Fri, 07 Aug 2015 06:39:28 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5087-character-proportions.aspx Message from cperg ]]> Thu, 06 Aug 2015 23:40:49 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5087-character-proportions.aspx Message from fazz68 Thu, 06 Aug 2015 23:31:45 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5087-character-proportions.aspx Message from MrDrWho13 Sorry if my post offended you cperg - I was really just thinking out loud about the easiest way for them to implement this. (The talk of dragons is a sort of inside joke/tradition started by Dreeko)

On a related note- I'm sure the ability to either create or import characters is coming, but it is probably at least 2 years away.
edited by MrDrWho13 on 06/08/2015]]> Thu, 06 Aug 2015 23:30:00 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5087-character-proportions.aspx Message from urbanlamb
There are a lot of shall we say englishmen and scotsmen around (not sure which is worse really) and they tend to have an interesting brand of humour. Having grown up with a typically english father it has rubbed off on me even though I am very very canadian. ON the other hand my very european jewish mother he could get rip roaring mad with his english humour .. it was an interesting family life LOL. Anyhow I didnt see anyone put anyone down just a bunch of englishmen, scots and australians be silly.

Basically everyone in this thread agrees with you in their own way just have to be you know silly about it. Myself included.
edited by urbanlamb on 06/08/2015]]> Thu, 06 Aug 2015 22:56:39 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5087-character-proportions.aspx Message from cperg
Being a developer for over 30 years and having experience with computers mainframe to mini to micro I tend to push the envelope. So if it is too soon for suggestions I apologize. But from my experience the true measure of the value someone places in another person process product or idea has to do with involvement. If I had no interest or believed the product to not be of some worth or to be not able to reach near my expectations I would simply just walk away and not care.

Adding my few measly dollars to the project definitely does not give me the right to demand but I would hope it to be a better result than indifference.

BTW a demeaning response shows a great deal about the tenor of a site. Perhaps you would just wish no one else would buy it?]]> Thu, 06 Aug 2015 22:49:10 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5087-character-proportions.aspx Message from fazz68 Thu, 06 Aug 2015 22:31:10 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5087-character-proportions.aspx Message from Dylly Thu, 06 Aug 2015 22:16:15 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5087-character-proportions.aspx Message from urbanlamb
and an orc]]> Thu, 06 Aug 2015 21:28:15 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5087-character-proportions.aspx Message from Dreeko MrDrWho13 wrote:
shhhh, don't mention dragons.



who would want a dragon ...sheesh!

D]]> Thu, 06 Aug 2015 21:27:47 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5087-character-proportions.aspx Message from drewi ukBerty wrote:
Cperg,

Personally I prefer the old potatoes myself, but head proportion would be a great way to vary their look.

yes i too think this would be a good way, along with working on their uv map designs, to get much more variation of characters.
Loving this exciting period of muvizu development and the business of the forum.]]> Thu, 06 Aug 2015 19:14:34 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5087-character-proportions.aspx Message from urbanlamb MrDrWho13 wrote:
I believe this would be easier to implement for the new characters because the older ones are made of one whole mesh, whereas the newer ones have 3 separate meshes (Top, middle, bottom).
That's just a guess, so I think this is one of those cases for muvizu where creating a new realistic character would be easier than re-engineering the older ones.



they have made 2 uvmaps on 2 material layers but its one mesh for a character(err there might be a third uvmap/material for the head). There might be a second mesh involved with clothing layers but I would be very surprised to find out a base model character is not a continuous mesh. I would think though that the clothing is just a morph of the base mesh done in something like zbrush. (except maybe where there is a skirt or something they add a bit more mesh on top kinda hard to morph legs to a skirt LOL)

If anything the older characters have more then one mesh for a base character. Ears, head, eyes,nose. The newer models obey more modern constraints and are more classic in that all the body parts are on one base mesh.
edited by urbanlamb on 06/08/2015]]> Thu, 06 Aug 2015 19:01:50 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5087-character-proportions.aspx Message from MrDrWho13 ]]> Thu, 06 Aug 2015 17:54:44 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5087-character-proportions.aspx Message from ukBerty

Next you'll want importable actions, way-points and dragons ! ]]> Thu, 06 Aug 2015 17:54:02 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5087-character-proportions.aspx Message from cperg edited by cperg on 06/08/2015]]> Thu, 06 Aug 2015 17:35:56 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5087-character-proportions.aspx Message from MrDrWho13 That's just a guess, so I think this is one of those cases for muvizu where creating a new realistic character would be easier than re-engineering the older ones.]]> Thu, 06 Aug 2015 17:20:29 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5087-character-proportions.aspx Message from ukBerty
Yes there is some history here.

When Muvizu was first released all characters were the "potato Heads". They then added things like the dog, skeleton and Stickman.

Then there was a change of direction and Beefy/sinister and Heroine appeared.

They have since added a couple more of these more lifelike characters - Rosie and finally Mandy.

Personally I prefer the old potatoes myself, but head proportion would be a great way to vary their look.]]> Thu, 06 Aug 2015 17:14:45 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5087-character-proportions.aspx Message from cperg
One of my original concerns was that the characters were comical and I now realize it is from the disproportionate head sizes. Are Rosie and Mandy the first attempts at getting more realistic characters into Muvizu?

I would think if the developers of Muvizu could add a head proportion quality to the existing characters my concerns might be over.]]> Thu, 06 Aug 2015 15:41:36 GMT