Forum - Tech Help - Mandy Character and a Mic

Forum - Tech Help - Mandy Character and a Mic - Messages http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5423-mandy-character-and-a-mic.aspx Forum - Tech Help - Mandy Character and a Mic - Messages en-us http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Jitbit AspNetForum Thu, 25 Feb 2016 23:52:44 GMT Thu, 25 Feb 2016 23:52:44 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5423-mandy-character-and-a-mic.aspx Message from theotherguy
I use my gaming computer for Muvizu because it has a fairly speedy video-card, Muvizu files render way faster with a good video-card as the Unreal game engine uses all its features. All the great stuff Muvizu does , dynamic lighting etc is because of that. The downside is, when you have a few character doing multiple things, moving, speaking, looking around etc. - just like in a game - things can slow down, and crash. One way that you can tell the kind of load Muvizu is putting on your computer, is by listening to the (load sensing) cooling fans, just like when running a high end game, they are running full blast!

The best way to work with Muvizu is to work withing it's limitations, it's a $30 program, you'd have to add a couple of zeros to get something as capable and you'd spend months learning to use it. Eventually they will have more elaborate movements for all the characters, but in the meantime you'll have to figure out work-arounds. Happy Muvizuing!]]> Thu, 25 Feb 2016 23:52:44 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5423-mandy-character-and-a-mic.aspx Message from blickfang
HOWEVER the KEY thing we all seem to be over looking (except me) is Instrument/Microphone. When you're developing your lead singer character and you see that, you're on the right path. That character will get all kinds of singing related actions. Some of them ok. Some of them really really cool. And when they aren't available to a character you really want to use, well it kinda sucks. No imported Mic or pippette is going to give you those actions and there lies the root cause of the problem, which the folks at Muvizu tell me they are not going to do anything about. Perhaps the next new character will be able to sing and have even more cool moves; but have no head?]]> Thu, 25 Feb 2016 22:03:54 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5423-mandy-character-and-a-mic.aspx Message from MrDrWho13 theotherguy wrote:

I've just discovered something interesting, I too been trying to get the Mandy character to sing into a mic. I took the available 'pipette' and coloured the bulb and dropper black, adjusted the rotation and scale and have a perfectly okay mic.

This is classic Muvizu workaround spirit! None of this newfangled importing objects nonsense.

]]> Thu, 25 Feb 2016 21:50:58 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5423-mandy-character-and-a-mic.aspx Message from PatMarrNC theotherguy wrote:

clever!]]> Thu, 25 Feb 2016 21:48:36 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5423-mandy-character-and-a-mic.aspx Message from theotherguy Thu, 25 Feb 2016 21:31:43 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5423-mandy-character-and-a-mic.aspx Message from blickfang Fri, 22 Jan 2016 02:50:36 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5423-mandy-character-and-a-mic.aspx Message from PatMarrNC blickfang wrote:

Or ....or.....our Muvizu developers could just add the bit of code to Mandy so she can sing :-D

Quite true!

I wonder if anybody has actually submitted this as a support request? Pointing out problems on the forum is not the same as submitting a support request.

Declaring problems in the forum is helpful in the sense that it makes other users aware of the boobytraps, and may warn others before they pursue a feature that used to work in a way that will stall their project. But all other users can do in return is offer their workarounds.

Bottom line is that every bug report that gets submitted on the forum for the sake of other users should be accompanied by an official bug report to support.]]> Fri, 22 Jan 2016 02:01:35 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5423-mandy-character-and-a-mic.aspx Message from blickfang Thu, 21 Jan 2016 22:14:49 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5423-mandy-character-and-a-mic.aspx Message from PatMarrNC blickfang wrote:

The one thing I will though miss is the mic toss

You could use a different character and zoom in the camera focus on the mic so it isn't obvious the scene isn't using Mandy. If you want a whole character shot, you could use a different character and do it as a silhouette.

Visual change-ups make videos more interesting, and this gives you multiple reasons for varying the camera view]]> Thu, 21 Jan 2016 20:40:28 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5423-mandy-character-and-a-mic.aspx Message from PatMarrNC ukBerty wrote:

I feel your pain - I decided to go for a fixed mic - it suited the retro look of what I wanted though so worked out OK

Berty, your approach provides an EXCELLENT solution to the problem, and I totally agree that the old-style mic on a stand is the better choice for your production! I can't wait to see your video! I'm sure it will be creatively inspiring (if I can keep my envy from undermining all the positive influence!)]]> Wed, 20 Jan 2016 00:09:03 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5423-mandy-character-and-a-mic.aspx Message from PatMarrNC blickfang wrote:

Thanks Pat. I'll give that a try when I get home.

Do you have that mic you used handy :-)

The one thing I will though miss is the mic toss

message me with your email address and I'll send it to you.
(The one I linked to on Sketchup didn't come into Muvizu correctly, so I modeled my own... as such it's a simple model with no textures, just colors... but I'll be happy to send it)]]> Tue, 19 Jan 2016 19:40:53 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5423-mandy-character-and-a-mic.aspx Message from blickfang
Do you have that mic you used handy :-)

The one thing I will though miss is the mic toss]]> Tue, 19 Jan 2016 19:19:43 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5423-mandy-character-and-a-mic.aspx Message from blickfang ukBerty wrote:

I feel your pain - I decided to go for a fixed mic - it suited the retro look of what I wanted though so worked out OK

Nice Still, Berty!

edited by blickfang on 19/01/2016]]> Tue, 19 Jan 2016 19:17:40 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5423-mandy-character-and-a-mic.aspx Message from PatMarrNC blickfang wrote:

I downloaded the latest version of Muvizu last night at about 17:30 CDST and confirmed Mandy had no instruments, which is needed for the singing actions

I created this demo in the version of Muvizu that was just released. Its purpose is to illustrate what I'm trying to communicate about the Mandy character's ability to use the singing functions if you just get her a mic... (you may want to watch in full screen in order to follow the menu choices)

There are a couple of actions that would normally involve switching the mic from hand to hand ("Throw Mic", "Throw Mic between Hands" and "Big Vocal 1" for example) but due to attaching the mic to her left hand, those few actions aren't useful. But all things considered, Mandy has about 95% of the capability. Why the mic is not one of her accessories is a mystery to me (but not much of a road block)
edited by PatMarrNC on 19/01/2016]]> Tue, 19 Jan 2016 18:46:19 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5423-mandy-character-and-a-mic.aspx Message from MrDrWho13 ritsmer wrote:

Probably a silly question - but: how difficult would it be to take/copy hair, clothes etc etc from one existing character and add it to another. ?

At first I would only think of copying the clothes and other seemingly "easy" things like some of the effects etc. ?

Of course the movements, actions and instruments options is quite another and more difficult/impossible issue - but copying like "Mandy's" hair options to "The girl" and the other way round might not be so difficult - but still add more possibilities for the users ??

The items are locked to the characters I'm afraid. You'll have to import your own hair models or whatever from sketchup if you don't like what's already there.]]> Tue, 19 Jan 2016 16:45:21 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5423-mandy-character-and-a-mic.aspx Message from blickfang Tue, 19 Jan 2016 16:16:41 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5423-mandy-character-and-a-mic.aspx Message from PatMarrNC blickfang wrote:

So even if I manage to get a mic in Mandy's hand and make it semi-believable, she still won't have the lovely singing moves that some of the other characters have.

:-)

I loaded the Mandy character and went to actions..... all of the actions are available to the Mandy character for singing... its just the mic that's missing as far as I can tell. You can demo the actions and Mandy acts them out. So if you get a mic imported and put it in her hand, you should be good to go]]> Tue, 19 Jan 2016 16:11:23 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5423-mandy-character-and-a-mic.aspx Message from ritsmer
At first I would only think of copying the clothes and other seemingly "easy" things like some of the effects etc. ?

Of course the movements, actions and instruments options is quite another and more difficult/impossible issue - but copying like "Mandy's" hair options to "The girl" and the other way round might not be so difficult - but still add more possibilities for the users ??]]> Tue, 19 Jan 2016 15:34:04 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5423-mandy-character-and-a-mic.aspx Message from blickfang

Rather than a workaround, is there going to be an improvement in the not too distant future for Mandy and her singing? Please? Pretty please?

:-)]]> Tue, 19 Jan 2016 14:27:37 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5423-mandy-character-and-a-mic.aspx Message from MrDrWho13 PatMarrNC wrote:

theotherguy wrote:

I'm also trying to have a singer use a mic, I've tried downloading the file into Sketchuo, but from there it doesn't allow you to save or export a file type Muvizu can use.

You might also want this thread for more info: http://www.muvizu.com/forum/topic5405-tips--tricks.aspx#post28539]]> Tue, 19 Jan 2016 09:04:20 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5423-mandy-character-and-a-mic.aspx Message from PatMarrNC theotherguy wrote:

I'm also trying to have a singer use a mic, I've tried downloading the file into Sketchuo, but from there it doesn't allow you to save or export a file type Muvizu can use.

Sketchup by itself doesn't have any export options that work in Muvizu. However, there is a plugin for Sketchup that allows exporting to ASE format (which Muvizu can use)

Here is the WIKI link to all the info you need:

http://muvizu.com/Wiki/wiki/143/]]> Tue, 19 Jan 2016 00:47:48 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5423-mandy-character-and-a-mic.aspx Message from theotherguy ]]> Tue, 19 Jan 2016 00:24:08 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5423-mandy-character-and-a-mic.aspx Message from PatMarrNC blickfang wrote:

Hi Pat

I tried that before and was not please with the results. We had to use a "less attractive" lead singer. Pop singers need to be attractive!! :-)

I'm curious to know what was disappointing about the results... seems like a model is a model...]]> Mon, 18 Jan 2016 22:27:05 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5423-mandy-character-and-a-mic.aspx Message from ukBerty

]]> Mon, 18 Jan 2016 19:33:30 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5423-mandy-character-and-a-mic.aspx Message from blickfang
I tried that before and was not please with the results. We had to use a "less attractive" lead singer. Pop singers need to be attractive!! :-)]]> Mon, 18 Jan 2016 15:04:15 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5423-mandy-character-and-a-mic.aspx Message from PatMarrNC
https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model.html?id=913b3f2c0479f19d2c9474f2c97797dd]]> Mon, 18 Jan 2016 15:00:37 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5423-mandy-character-and-a-mic.aspx Message from blickfang
Last time i tried to make the Mandy character sing, her holding a mic was not an option and I wondered if it will ever be?

Thanks!

:-)]]> Mon, 18 Jan 2016 14:46:16 GMT