Forum - Competitions, Events & News - Competition? - Messages http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Forum - Competitions, Events & News - Competition? - Messages en-us http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Jitbit AspNetForum Tue, 23 Aug 2016 03:08:44 GMT Tue, 23 Aug 2016 03:08:44 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from PatMarrNC fosforino wrote:
Ciao sto preparando un lavoro, spero che domani, io possa caricarlo su Muvizu.


google translate interprets that as follows:
Hello I am preparing a job, I hope that tomorrow, I can upload it to Muvizu.


Cool! I hope its for the contest!
I look forward to seeing it! (remember the English subtitles)

or, as Google translate would say:
Fresco! Spero che la sua per il concorso!
Non vedo l'ora di vederlo! (Ricordate i sottotitoli in inglese)


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edited by PatMarrNC on 23/08/2016]]> Tue, 23 Aug 2016 03:08:44 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from fosforino ]]> Tue, 23 Aug 2016 01:15:40 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from MrDrWho13 PatMarrNC wrote:
gimmick wrote:
The prizes could be also Muvizu T-shirt, Muvizu bag, etc




the summer 2016 contests are all being sponsored by forum members, and the prizes are provided by the sponsor (not by Digimania).

If I had a Muvizu T shirt, I probably wouldn't give it away. ;-)

They used to give out t-shirts and stuff to the most frequent users, but I think they moved away from the community concept after it went non-beta.]]> Mon, 22 Aug 2016 19:13:29 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from PatMarrNC gimmick wrote:
The prizes could be also Muvizu T-shirt, Muvizu bag, etc




the summer 2016 contests are all being sponsored by forum members, and the prizes are provided by the sponsor (not by Digimania).

If I had a Muvizu T shirt, I probably wouldn't give it away. ;-)]]> Sun, 21 Aug 2016 15:49:00 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from gimmick


]]> Sun, 21 Aug 2016 10:43:33 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from maurice8th Sun, 21 Aug 2016 05:55:28 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from PatMarrNC Sun, 21 Aug 2016 02:26:48 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from maurice8th ]]> Sun, 21 Aug 2016 01:22:32 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from MrDrWho13 PatMarrNC wrote:
has anybody talked to Digimania about this yet?


Not yet, I think it would be a good idea to have a couple of competitions complete first to show it can work. They were sceptical about giving out licences before.]]> Mon, 15 Aug 2016 20:41:34 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from PatMarrNC Mon, 15 Aug 2016 20:26:29 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from MrDrWho13 PatMarrNC wrote:
I'm not sure what "without premio" means. In general I take this to be a request for a contest using the free version only. (Is that your take, MDW13?)

Yeah, I assume fosforino meant the free version.
I'd be happy to run a competition for beginners in the future, but Digimania would need to co-operate since the natural prize would be a licence.]]> Thu, 11 Aug 2016 16:34:55 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from PatMarrNC fosforino wrote:
Mi piacerebbe partecipare ad Una sfida senza premio.A patto che possano partecipare sopratutto i principianti, cioè persone che utilizzano Muvizu non una scopo commerciale (o almeno non ancora) poichè servirebbe per testare le proprie capacità ed autostimolarsi per migliorare le proprie competenze.


Google translate version:

I'd like to participate in a challenge without premio. A condition that they can participate especially beginners, ie people using Muvizu not a commercial purpose (or at least not yet) as it would serve to test their skills and stim to improve their skills.


I'm not sure what "without premio" means. In general I take this to be a request for a contest using the free version only. (Is that your take, MDW13?)

If so, That's a good idea... it's more inclusive.... but it isn't a good fit for the challenge I want to make.

This one might be a good contest for Muvizu to sponsor because they could award a full license to the winner(s)]]> Thu, 11 Aug 2016 16:30:03 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from MrDrWho13 Either Pat's competition(unless your plan is already made, Pat), or the following one should be based on the free version.

Not sure how the prizes would work with that competition though.]]> Thu, 11 Aug 2016 09:00:16 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from fosforino Thu, 11 Aug 2016 08:51:54 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from PatMarrNC Wed, 10 Aug 2016 14:43:24 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from PatMarrNC ziggy72 wrote:
That is a great list... for the Oscars Just making something that hangs together for it's duration is all we're really looking for here, along with effort. Anyway, bullet lists are for accountants, not artists - it's overthinking it to be so itemized, I would argue. Judging should be done based on your emotional reaction, not necessarily your rational reaction. I would argue.


I agree that art is essentially valued by its ability to appeal to an audience in ways that can't be measured empirically.

But when it comes to software, proficiency is indeed measurable. That doesn't take anything away from the primary value... rather, it adds a new functionality to the mix.

IMO, part of the advantage of having different people sponsor the contests is to get a feel for how others approach (and evaluate) the creative process. Therefore, having different standards for each contest makes it interesting and challenging in a new way for each contest.

So , it makes sense for this to be an advance declaration of how my contest will be judged, and not a standard for anyone else to use. Thanks to MDW13 for suggesting that.]]> Wed, 03 Aug 2016 19:56:05 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from PatMarrNC MrDrWho13 wrote:

I like the idea of a feedback system for competition entries like you suggested. I'll see what I can do for the current one.
Maybe a future competition can be based on these points... if only there were someone to run it..... Pat?


I'm not a mogul, but if that's not a requirement, I'll be happy to sponsor a future contest and judge it by these criteria. I might even offer a cash prize, payable directly to paypal. (thanks to Rocque for that idea)

We might have to loosen up on the Mogul sponsorship anyway, since there's only a handful of them who regularly hang out here anymore. I think the contests do a good job of building a sense of community among those who do participate regularly.]]> Wed, 03 Aug 2016 19:48:45 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from MrDrWho13 PatMarrNC wrote:
it would be useful to me to see how each judge graded such a list.. (a number for each item... ) on my projects.

When I'm learning, feedback like "ha ha that was good" doesn't tell me anything. An analysis of what I did right or could have done better is VERY helpful. ESPECIALLY if there is a number to gauge my need for improvement.

Anyway, all this is speculation, since no agreement has been made about the usefulness of the idea. I'm just brainstorming here.

I like the idea of a feedback system for competition entries like you suggested. I'll see what I can do for the current one.
Maybe a future competition can be based on these points... if only there were someone to run it..... Pat? ]]> Wed, 03 Aug 2016 19:02:05 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from ziggy72 Just making something that hangs together for it's duration is all we're really looking for here, along with effort. Anyway, bullet lists are for accountants, not artists - it's overthinking it to be so itemized, I would argue. Judging should be done based on your emotional reaction, not necessarily your rational reaction. I would argue. ]]> Wed, 03 Aug 2016 19:02:03 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from PatMarrNC
When I'm learning, feedback like "ha ha that was good" doesn't tell me anything. An analysis of what I did right or could have done better is VERY helpful. ESPECIALLY if there is a number to gauge my need for improvement.

Anyway, all this is speculation, since no agreement has been made about the usefulness of the idea. I'm just brainstorming here.]]> Wed, 03 Aug 2016 18:28:45 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from PatMarrNC ================================

points (1 to 10) could be awarded for each element in the list, depending on whether it was used at all, or on how well it was used

COMPLIANCE (does the entry meet the contest rules? Long/short enough? correct theme?)

THE STORY (does it flow? make sense? use of metaphor, irony, etc? Is it funny? )

INNOVATION (is there something new here?)

ORIGINALITY (did author use ALL original content? (as opposed to incorporating the work of others)

IMPROVEMENT (is this a step up from the person's other work?)

LEGALITY (are all elements legal to use? public domain or royalty free? original content?)
  • music (cite license, public domain status or originality)
  • downloaded models
  • 2d graphics
  • other merged video

MODELLING (quality of models, attachments, textures etc created by the project author)

ATTACHMENTS (clever use of attachments, such as Ikes' chicken idea)

SET BUILDING (is set original? or downloaded? How cool is it?)

BACKGROUND MUSIC (does it add something? Or get in the way? Is it original? Do you have the rights to use it?)

TECHNIQUE (points awarded for each technique listed)
  • shading
  • keyframing
  • effective use of environment
  • merging elements from different sources
  • etc.. moguls really need to populate this list.. these are just idea joggers
EDITING (value added in video editor)
  • additional keyframing
  • green screen
  • use of 2d elements to simulate 3d environment
  • special effects (sub list here?)
  • color binding to make all merged elements look like they exist in the same world
  • etc.. moguls really need to populate this list.. these are just idea joggers

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edited by PatMarrNC on 03/08/2016]]> Wed, 03 Aug 2016 18:18:59 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from PatMarrNC
If we identified a skills scorecard and made it the advertised criteria for judgement, it would have several positive effects:

1) contributor/learners would consciously focus on including all the criteria in their projects, which would naturally push people into learning things they might not have approached otherwise

2) judging would be more empirical and less subjective

3) it would provide somewhat of a "to do" list for everyone who participates, which would make it easier to organize the project.

I'm not a mogul, so I wouldn't even know where to begin ... but I'm sure you all know what techniques and skills you consider to be essential to a good video. This is already getting long, so I'll start a new post for brainstorming ideas for such a list]]> Wed, 03 Aug 2016 17:57:45 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from MrDrWho13 http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/messages.aspx?TopicID=5813&MessageID=31781#post31781]]> Thu, 21 Jul 2016 13:24:36 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from MrDrWho13 PatMarrNC wrote:
cool! I'm looking forward to seeing the contest parameters and prize. I think a million dollars would be a great prize.

A million dollars! That sounds like a reasonable prize. I'll just ask Trump for a small loan.]]> Wed, 20 Jul 2016 22:36:38 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from PatMarrNC Wed, 20 Jul 2016 22:26:14 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from MrDrWho13 I'm almost ready to start. I'm planning to make a video to give a brief outline of the rules and an example, but might end up just writing up the rules and doing the video later.]]> Wed, 20 Jul 2016 20:39:21 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from PatMarrNC
(enquiring minds, you know the drill....)]]> Wed, 20 Jul 2016 20:37:30 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from MrDrWho13

Edit: I'm linking the competition here for archive purposes: http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5749-make-me-laugh--comedy-competition.aspx?p=f#post30899
edited by MrDrWho13 on 15/06/2016]]> Wed, 15 Jun 2016 16:52:39 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from clayster2012 PatMarrNC wrote:
MrDrWho13 wrote:

I'm not sure if I can come up with anything for this first one, especially with the high minimum time and forbidden external music , but I'll see if I can muster something up.


I'd be totally disappointed if you didn't submit something! In fact, I'll be disappointed if this doesn't draw all the moguls out of hiding! It's mogul-quality stuff we all want to see...


I waived that part, and updated the rules]]> Wed, 15 Jun 2016 16:51:15 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from PatMarrNC toonarama wrote:
PatMarrNC wrote:

I'd be totally disappointed if you didn't submit something! In fact, I'll be disappointed if this doesn't draw all the moguls out of hiding! It's mogul-quality stuff we all want to see...


Muvizu is a blessing and a curse and we are watching, interminably watching.......and waiting......


LOL!]]> Wed, 15 Jun 2016 15:42:41 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from toonarama PatMarrNC wrote:

I'd be totally disappointed if you didn't submit something! In fact, I'll be disappointed if this doesn't draw all the moguls out of hiding! It's mogul-quality stuff we all want to see...


Muvizu is a blessing and a curse and we are watching, interminably watching.......and waiting......]]> Wed, 15 Jun 2016 15:23:40 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from PatMarrNC MrDrWho13 wrote:

I'm not sure if I can come up with anything for this first one, especially with the high minimum time and forbidden external music , but I'll see if I can muster something up.


I'd be totally disappointed if you didn't submit something! In fact, I'll be disappointed if this doesn't draw all the moguls out of hiding! It's mogul-quality stuff we all want to see...]]> Wed, 15 Jun 2016 14:37:41 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from clayster2012 PatMarrNC wrote:
MrDrWho13 wrote:
I think keeping each challenge separate would be best so they don't interfere with each other.


I wasn't talking about overlapping the contests... more like a "look-ahead" so we'd know what was coming. Or not. No big deal either way. This is going to be fun!

I'm not sure if I can come up with anything for this first one, especially with the high minimum time and forbidden external music , but I'll see if I can muster something up.


Didn't Clayster waive that music rule?


yes I waived that music rule, you can use any material from any free royalty sites, and original material, I have changed the rules.]]> Wed, 15 Jun 2016 04:27:56 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from clayster2012 PatMarrNC wrote:
MrDrWho13 wrote:
I think keeping each challenge separate would be best so they don't interfere with each other.


I wasn't talking about overlapping the contests... more like a "look-ahead" so we'd know what was coming. Or not. No big deal either way. This is going to be fun!

I'm not sure if I can come up with anything for this first one, especially with the high minimum time and forbidden external music , but I'll see if I can muster something up.


Didn't Clayster waive that music rule?


yes I waived that music rule, you can use any material from any free royalty sites, and original material, I have changed the rules.]]> Wed, 15 Jun 2016 04:27:56 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from PatMarrNC MrDrWho13 wrote:
I think keeping each challenge separate would be best so they don't interfere with each other.


I wasn't talking about overlapping the contests... more like a "look-ahead" so we'd know what was coming. Or not. No big deal either way. This is going to be fun!

I'm not sure if I can come up with anything for this first one, especially with the high minimum time and forbidden external music , but I'll see if I can muster something up.


Didn't Clayster waive that music rule?]]> Tue, 14 Jun 2016 23:23:05 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from MrDrWho13 I'm not sure if I can come up with anything for this first one, especially with the high minimum time and forbidden external music , but I'll see if I can muster something up.]]> Tue, 14 Jun 2016 21:39:00 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from PatMarrNC
Speaking only for myself.. I admit to being painfully slow at this... to the point that a 4 week time limit might knock me out of the running.

If upcoming contests were declared in advance and everybody had a heads-up so they could start organizing ideas and creating assets, I think the end result might be better videos. At least, having more time would benefit me.

What does everyone else think? We have several weeks to form a consensus of opinion on the matter...]]> Tue, 14 Jun 2016 18:19:31 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from MrDrWho13 I was thinking it should be based on some summery themes, but if clayster is running another contest, maybe this needs to be put on hold for a month or so, so we don't clash.]]> Fri, 10 Jun 2016 08:13:32 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from PatMarrNC
Or maybe there could be prizes awarded in different categories... one newbie prize which might be store credit.... maybe a special prize for Moguls ... polling the moguls for prize ideas that are appropriate for their situation might be a good idea

But store credit would work for everybody because sooner or later new products will be announced and Newbies and Moguls will both want them.

I nominate MrDrWho as contest administrator (the guy who gets to declare a theme, max time length and a completion date)
Anybody second the nomination?]]> Fri, 10 Jun 2016 04:21:06 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from drewi A title or two or three...to freely interpret will help people to find an inroad.
Moguls should be handicapped with faulty mice to make a level playing field.Ton of Bricks
edited by drewi on 10/06/2016]]> Fri, 10 Jun 2016 02:20:10 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from MrDrWho13 Would the theme thing rather than a competition with a prize work better in your eyes? Is there a way to form to rules allowing for inexperienced users to have a good chance of winning?
Not sure you can do anything about the deadlines though. ]]> Thu, 09 Jun 2016 19:51:32 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from urbanlamb
Prizes are usually won by the people who need them least because their skill level is such that they likely have most of the tools. This is one of my contest pet peeves. I enter with something I know wont win because I want someone who needs the items to win them. So that is the opposite to what contests are intended I suppose but I dont want the goodies I likely already own one ore more of them so I need to avoid winning it lol.

I know not everyone thinks like me, but i am very non competitive and extremely introverted.

Anyhow so I wasn't going to even vote, but I thought a female geek perspective backed up by years of learning would be helpful.

My last reason is I can't stand deadlines lol but that has to do with the fact i am older and sort of at this point walk to the beat of my own drum. Once you get to a certain age and have experienced life you kind of change your views.]]> Thu, 09 Jun 2016 19:46:57 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from MrDrWho13 edited by MrDrWho13 on 09/06/2016]]> Thu, 09 Jun 2016 17:37:26 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from MrDrWho13 Zombie Holiday sounds good, but maybe something to keep for Halloween.
I like the comedy sketches which match the whole cartoon feel of Muvizu. hmmmm..... what would be good titles?


I like the holiday theme, and it's a good time of year for a holiday/vacation based competition.
edited by MrDrWho13 on 09/06/2016]]> Thu, 09 Jun 2016 17:11:07 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from PatMarrNC
we could start with a title and see how people develop it... such as
ZOMBIE HOLIDAY
THE CATS REVENGE
BEST OF TED TALKS

or maybe, each month pick a common workaround problem or animation challenge and see how people deal with it

FLYING A PLANE
RIDING A MOTORCYCLE
SKYDIVING
ADDING COMPOSITED EFFECTS
CLIMBING A LADDER
FLYING SUPERHERO

or we could go totally nuts and scramble a bunch of ideas into one insane project like
SKYDIVING ZOMBIE CAT FIRST PERSON SHOOTER GAME
edited by PatMarrNC on 09/06/2016]]> Thu, 09 Jun 2016 16:59:41 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from PatMarrNC
Part of the deal is that the assets for each submission (rigged characters, sets etc) become freely downloadable in their asset store, so anybody can DL them and see how the pros approach a project.

Projecting the same idea onto the Muvizu paradigm, sets for submitted videos might go to the store as freebies.

I like this idea, and I look forward to seeing how it develops!]]> Thu, 09 Jun 2016 16:57:04 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from MrDrWho13 )
edited by MrDrWho13 on 09/06/2016]]> Thu, 09 Jun 2016 08:36:04 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from bigwally eugenecheese wrote:
The last tine I entered a competition many years ago (AMD fusion?) the winner was the person who did a blatant advert for the prize ! The actual competition said it could be anything lasting one minute or less.
Basically they picked the one they could use themselves !


Actually, the original rules were for videos 10 seconds or less. By the time I had finished 2 ten-second videos, enough people complained about not being able to make any and they changed the rules. (Boo. hiss!)

P.S. - Glad to see you back Mr. Chuckles.
edited by bigwally on 09/06/2016]]> Thu, 09 Jun 2016 02:59:05 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from Rocque Thu, 09 Jun 2016 02:01:51 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from PatMarrNC
I like the term "challenge". in which a theme is declared and everybody submits their interpretation. That would be fun for me whether there was a prize or not.

it might be fun to openly brainstorm in the forum for themes.

But if prizes were awarded... a very cool prize that might lure all the moguls out of hiding would be to give the winner power to pick some new feature to be implemented in Muvizu.

;-)]]> Thu, 09 Jun 2016 00:48:19 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from eugenecheese Basically they picked the one they could use themselves !]]> Wed, 08 Jun 2016 23:59:02 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic5742-competition.aspx Message from MrDrWho13 Would you guys like Muvizu to have another competition? If so, what type would you suggest? What sort of video duration or competition opening time? Would people working on large projects want it later on in the year or next year? Are prizes a good idea?

So many questions, it would be interesting to hear what you all have to say about it.]]> Wed, 08 Jun 2016 23:01:15 GMT