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03/12/2016 23:53:41

asaph
asaph
Posts: 10 		I am in need of some long dresses for an early 1900's project where the women wore long dresses and bonnets... the headscarf will work for the bonnet, but I need to find some long dresses, or how I can make them, if it's possible. Thank you.
Michayl
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04/12/2016 03:35:42

PatMarrNCMuvizu mogul
PatMarrNC
Posts: 1738 		can you post a photo of what you want?
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04/12/2016 13:35:07

asaph
asaph
Posts: 10 		http://www.connerprairie.org/education-research/indiana-history/clothing-in-the-1800s-1



clothing of the men and women like this would be great.... don't know if it's possible though.
thank you
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04/12/2016 14:18:39

PatMarrNCMuvizu mogul
PatMarrNC
Posts: 1738 		making characters like this would require attachments to simulate the baggy clothes.... but here's the problem you'll have with them:

The characters' arm and leg movements will intersect with the baggy clothes. When the women walk, their legs will extend past their skirts. When ankles bend , the legs will intersect with the tops of high boots.

In order to make it work, you'd have to frame shots so the intersections aren't facing the camera, or they'
ll be really obvious. Scenes where the characters are not walking or moving their arms much will be your best bet

If you wanted to make posed shots without much/any movement, yes, it would be totally possible

I may go ahead an make a set of such characters and post it to the store because I have plans for an American civil war story, which could use the period outfits
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04/12/2016 17:36:24

asaph
asaph
Posts: 10 		That would be great!!! The characters are teachers that stand in one spot and don't move, other than arms, head, and eye's movement... the project is for young children and these characters just ask some questions at the end of an instructional video. If you post them on the muvizu store, I am willing to pay for your efforts. Thank you greatly
Michayl
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04/12/2016 18:03:35

PatMarrNCMuvizu mogul
PatMarrNC
Posts: 1738 		in order to help me avoid working on the wrong characters, it would be helpful if you'd isolate specific characters to recreate.
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05/12/2016 02:26:43

Rocque
Rocque
Posts: 359 		I am working on a Christmas project and it will include scenes from Civil War era public domain images. I am hoping to have it finished in time for Christmas. I might also be interested in your clothing, Pat. Are there top hats available, too? I think my characters would mostly be sitting or standing without much movement.

I hope this gives you more incentive to create something.
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05/12/2016 03:19:08

PatMarrNCMuvizu mogul
PatMarrNC
Posts: 1738 		I'll make sure the set contains a top hat!
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05/12/2016 04:17:14

asaph
asaph
Posts: 10 		http://recollections.biz/victorian/60751-2.html

something like this would be nice, this site has a lot of choices. Thank you so much, this is truly
wonderful!
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05/12/2016 15:31:33

PatMarrNCMuvizu mogul
PatMarrNC
Posts: 1738 		one thing I can't do is make the puffy sleeves... there's no way to make sleeves and pantlegs follow the angles created when arms and legs bend. That's why clothing in this environment is painted onto skins that lie directly on the character's surface.
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05/12/2016 17:19:56

asaph
asaph
Posts: 10 		No problem, what ever you can do is awesome!!!
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06/12/2016 05:47:23

PatMarrNCMuvizu mogul
PatMarrNC
Posts: 1738 		before I put a lot of work into this, here is a screen save of one outfit. When the character is at rest, the hands are inside the skirt, and many poses cause the legs to come out of the skirt. I will also add a link to the set so you can DL it and play with it to see if it will work

I think you'll find that it has limited usefulness, and I have mixed feelings about spending the time necessary to make whole set of characters with limited application. Please try it and let me know your thoughts

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06/12/2016 05:54:01

PatMarrNCMuvizu mogul
PatMarrNC
Posts: 1738 		link to the set: (LINK DELETED, UPDATED VERSION NOW IN STORE)
edited by PatMarrNC on 13/12/2016
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06/12/2016 08:50:53

mindiflyth
mindiflyth
Posts: 77 		Those look great, PMC! Maybe post 'em here for free for a day or so, then put 'em in the store. Much as we all love free stuff, these are work to create.
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06/12/2016 16:45:01

PatMarrNCMuvizu mogul
PatMarrNC
Posts: 1738 		mindiflyth wrote:
Those look great, PMC! Maybe post 'em here for free for a day or so, then put 'em in the store. Much as we all love free stuff, these are work to create.


Thanks for the kind words, Mindiflyth! Anybody who wants this should get it now, because I probably won't put this in the store, even for free. At least anybody reading this thread knows that I'm not making a claim that a stiff skirt will work in more than a very limited application...

but once its in the store and somebody downloads it a year from now with no hint about the special request and circumstances, I'll just be setting myself up for a bunch of hate replies about how it sucks and doesn't work. I don't mind using the limited time I have left on the planet to make stuff and give it away, but it would bother me to give it away and then start getting negative posts under the store item.

It always blows my mind that people will actually complain about stuff they get for free. In fact, it blows my mind that people will complain about Muvizu, which offers capability very similar to programs that cost MUCH more, yet is so inexpensive that it's practically shareware.
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06/12/2016 17:11:35

Rocque
Rocque
Posts: 359 		You can see how out of practice I am by this quick video I loaded just to test the long dress.
I think I need to revisit all the tutorials, and how to export the correct size from HitFilm.
Maybe I will wait until summer to start over.



I am sharing this so you can see that what you made does have possibilities, but then you all ready knew that, Pat.

Thanks for the long dress. Are we able to modify it in any way? I mean as far as colors.
For background characters or to set the mood in a scene it is great. It reminds me of the Christmas Carolers you see pictures of.

It is a shame that people would be ultra critical of your attempt for FREE. I like the character and you can see the limitations in the test, but they are easy work arounds for me, once I figure out what I am doing again. Even though I really never was that proficient to begin with. HA.
edited by Rocque on 06/12/2016
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06/12/2016 17:25:55

asaph
asaph
Posts: 10 		Absolutely perfect, beautiful work, this will work perfectly!
thank you, thank you!!
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06/12/2016 20:47:57

PatMarrNCMuvizu mogul
PatMarrNC
Posts: 1738 		OK, Here is an update: two male and two female characters dressed in styles from the late 1800s
Links to the set will follow in the next message

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06/12/2016 20:54:47

PatMarrNCMuvizu mogul
PatMarrNC
Posts: 1738 		link to the set shown in the message above:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/o8pmwnuv5q464v9/1800s_Characters.set?dl=0

It will remain active briefly, then get deleted. Neither set will go to the store.
The top hat came from the store, (I didn't make it) but at present I can't remember who make it. It was one of the Moguls. If I remember or if I can find it in the store, I'll edit this post to credit the creator.

UPDATE 1: I just looked thru everything in the store, and unless I just glossed over it, I didn't see the Top Hat. I don't know whether as new items get added, old items get removed or what. I know it was there at some point in the past year. If anybody remembers who made it, please let me know so I can make a note of it for future reference.

UPDATE 2
here's a link to the textures and texture maps used to make the skirt, hat and brooch:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/w0rm910xgat8e5k/HAT_n_SKIRT_TEXTURE_MAPS.zip?dl=0

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edited by PatMarrNC on 06/12/2016
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06/12/2016 21:18:48

mindiflyth
mindiflyth
Posts: 77 		Could you post the two gentlemen in the store? Those seem like they would work fine. And as for the dresses, what about posting those with a note across the pic that says STANDING CHARACTERS ONLY: SKIRT IS STIFF AND HAS CLIPPING ISSUES. It'd be a shame to just send those off to oblivion.
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