So, freedom of speech = trolling? Okay, if I'm a troll, I invite Muvizu HQ to throw me off the site ASAP.

Ziggy, I'm really disappointed and I'm not going to engage with your trolling.

well.. that depends on your definition of censorship. If censorship is only considered such when it is the complete prohibition of self-expression, then your statement rings true.

But many people see this topic as a "toad in a pan of heated water" scenario, in which people are led to accept an ever-increasing amount of information control until it reaches the point of no return and the toad is boiled (and dead)


When evaluating arguments like this, the first question to ask is whether the two points of view are differences in KIND or differences in DEGREE.

Differences in KIND would be VIOLENCE as a solution, as opposed to NON-VIOLENCE
Difference in DEGREE would be spanking versus beheading.

Once the public approves a certain KIND of policy, it is very easy for the powers in control to ramp up the DEGREE. Which is why in early discussions they always argue DEGREE, not KIND.
("What we're doing is not as bad as what people are suggesting...") a statement of DEGREE which totally side-steps the fact that the KIND of policy they are pursuing is indeed what the people fear it is.

In this case, a difference in KIND equates to opinion control versus freedom of expression...

Difference in degree is control through economic sanctions or control by absolute decree. You are arguing in favor of control because you accept the current lesser degree... but once control is established as the norm the degree of control will certainly ramp up to something you probably would not accept.

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edited by PatMarrNC on 23/09/2016

i thought faggotry was a tree that produces faggots.... those nasty offal meat products ya mum made you eat as a kid...

Never eaten a faggot (snigger) but I imagine they taste... er, not nice Still, after that, you could have a fag... ! That means 'lighting a cigarette' in Britain, SJWs, so calm down.

tonyob67 wrote:

Contrary to what many people on YouTube are saying, they're not actually censoring these videos. All they're doing is not allowing you to make money off videos that are against their guidelines. (Nothing's actually changed, they just re-worded it)
It's still a scumbag move by YouTube, but not quite as much as people make out.
edited by MrDrWho13 on 23/09/2016

Yes, It sounds like the Mexican Government, they own the media and they censure everything bad that people say about the President ...there is no freedom of exprecion, the only way we have to express is youtube and other social networks, and they want to take that away from us to?....to sad

...aaaaand just when you think Google's moral faggotry can't get any worse with what they're doing to destroy the Youtube community, this happens...



Bad enough that YT are now punishing anyone who expresses an opinion they don't like (by removing the ability to moneytize that video), and trying to phase out subscriptions (so you only see what THEY recommend), but now there's this nonsense...