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30/04/2015 14:25:43

imyourda
imyourda
Posts: 55 		Hi all,

I was thinking about getting a desktop, but wasn't sure it would be much of an improvement over my current laptop set up. The only real issues I have are loading times of larger sets at times and camera movement seems to slow down during movement at times . Here is what I am running now on my laptop .
LAPTOP
Windows 8.1
Process or AMD A6-5350M with Radeon™ HD 8450G
2.9MHZ (says up to 3.5mhz)
Graphics- AMD Radeon HD 8450G
8 GB Ram

Can someone who knows about this stuff tell me if a new Desktop would make that much of a difference in performance? Thanks in advance



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30/04/2015 16:44:26

ziggy72Muvizu mogulExperimental user
ziggy72
Posts: 1988 		The most important part of a computer (for Muvizu) is the videocard - yours is slower than slow. When deciding on new kit, I use a site called Passmark which gives you universal (and simple to read!) benchmarks for all hardware so that you can compare the performance of them before you buy. Here is what your current card scores compared to the cards you can get now : http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+HD+8450G&id=2595

Pretty much any video card you can buy for a desktop will crush your 8450 - I'd recommend something that scores in the 2000 or 3000 range at least. Load times are dependant on your CPU, and laptop processors are very underpowered (by necessity) so you'd want at least an i5 (or i7 if you can afford it). Hope that helps
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30/04/2015 16:51:47

imyourda
imyourda
Posts: 55 		That more than helps!!!! Thanks so much Ziggy!!
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30/04/2015 18:15:50

Rebel
Rebel
Posts: 66 		Yeah as Ziggy said, that's a very slow card that you have, they also do a benchmark chart for CPU's https://www.cpubenchmark.net/ and you will find yours fairly low down in the Mid Range chart.

I'm a gamer and as such, it is very important to get the best bang for buck. So my first question would be "How much is your budget?" The second would be, "What will your be using your machine for mostly?"

The good news is that without spending a fortune, you should see a vast improvement using Muvizu on a new desktop computer on a modest budget, when compared to your current set up.
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01/05/2015 00:22:31

imyourda
imyourda
Posts: 55 		Thanks...I do a lot of video editing and mainly Muvizu. My budget is around $800.

Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance
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01/05/2015 21:26:45

Rebel
Rebel
Posts: 66 		$800, you must be Stateside then! I have more sources in the U.K. but Newegg are quite good, had a quick look there and a couple stood out, there's an i5:-

i5 4690 (3.50GHz) 8GB DDR3 2TB HDD Windows 8.1 64-Bit GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB $799.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229556

But for video editing, you may be better off with an i7 (it has Hyper Threading), this one looked good:-

i7 5820K (3.30GHz) 8GB DDR4 1TB HDD 120GB SSD Windows 8.1 64-bit AMD Radeon R9 270 $799.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229620R

Has DDR4 memory and also has an SSD which will load Windows and a selection of selected programs very fast.

Have a browse through over at Newegg, there are also quite a few cheaper then the above. meanwhile, I'll see what else I can find.
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03/05/2015 01:32:46

imyourda
imyourda
Posts: 55 		Thanks Rebel ! Yes, I am stateside ! Based on your post, I've been looking around and found a DELL with these specs for $779 . Does this sound good?

Dell XPS 8700 Quad core i7-4790 3.4ghz turbo to 4ghz... 16GB 2Tb+32SSD AMD Radeon 270 graphics card . BLURAY windows 8


I can also get the same computer with the the GTX 750 Ti without the bluray for the same price.
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03/05/2015 17:55:36

Rebel
Rebel
Posts: 66 		At $779 that is very good value for money, it has the right components to make it a well
priced machine and it also comes with a healthy 16GB of memory. I should think it would suit
your usages very well.

As a gamer, I look at things a little differently and I have to say that I don't think these
things will affect you but I do feel that I have to point them out.

The i7-4770 is a very powerful CPU but it can't be over-clocked like the 4770K. The motherboard
only has single PCIe x16 Slot so you wouldn't be able to add a second card in SLI or Crossfire,
The case has a very small form factor and there is only a single cooling fan so you wouldn't be
able to dissipate the heat anyway. In any case the PSU is only 460 Watt which is not enough to support a second card. The 32GB SSD will not be running the operating system as it is too small and instead would act as a flash cache for the hard drive,

Having said all that, this is still a good moderate gaming machine and I doubt that you would be wanting to over-clock or add a second card anyway.

Thanks to its low price, a lot of storage, memory and a high tier processor, they make it a great value machine.

As for the video card, although they are both around the same price, in most cases the Radeon R9 270 will outperform the GTX 750 Ti although the power consumption is three times higher and the L2 Cache just a quarter of the 750 Ti. The Radion's resolution performance is better. It's memory Bus at 256 Bit is twice that of the 750 Ti as are it's shader processing units, pixal rate, texture rate, texture mapping and render output units.

Will it be a big improvement over your current laptop set up? Hell Yeah!
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03/05/2015 18:05:36

ekessler
ekessler
Posts: 46 		I have watching this thread. I am looking for a laptop to run Muvizu and Vegas 12. My 5 year old works well but it is time to be replaced. Any suggestions?
Also to spent $700-$800 in the US.
Thanks
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04/05/2015 01:54:33

Rebel
Rebel
Posts: 66 		Sorry ekessler but I am not familiar with graphic card specs for laptops. There does appear to be several on Newegg within your budget, I saw an i5 4200M and even an i7 5500U processor but the graphics cards that came with them seemed very underpowered to me, some I would even describe as atrocious . The price of laptops keeps falling year after year, so if your present system works well then my advice would be to hold off for now and see if you can pick up a better bargain next year.

As for Sony Vegas 12, the minimum system requirements are quite low, 4GB RAM, 2GHz CPU, 512MB GPU and maybe double those for recommended.
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05/05/2015 17:47:54

imyourda
imyourda
Posts: 55 		Thanks for all of your help Rebel !!!
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